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they know we’re going to keep it. he beats the rest of the field, and the criminal justice system. Secretary Clinton, listen. But the facts and the law here are really quite clear. a couple of points. (APPLAUSE) HEWITT: Senator Rubio. I think I watched you recently when you said that. Did I say that?
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Let’s just stop them. I have a great relationship with the president of China,C. We have been talking about it for decades We now have a 73000-page tax code There have been more than 4000 changes to the tax plan since 2001 alone There are loads of great ideas great conservative ideas from wonderful think tanks about how to reform the tax code The problem is we never get it done We have talked about tax reform in every single election for decades It never happens And the politicians always say it is so complicated nobody but a politician can figure it out The truth is this the big problem we need a leader in Washington who understands how to get something done not to talk about it not to propose it to get it done QUINTANILLA: You want to bring 70000 pages to three FIORINA: That’s right three pages QUINTANILLA: Is that using really small type FIORINA: You know why three QUINTANILLA: Is that using really small type FIORINA: No You know why three Because only if it’s about three pages are you leveling the playing field between the big the powerful the wealthy and the well-connected who can hire the armies of lawyers and accountants and yes lobbyists to help them navigate their way through 73000 pages Three pages is about the maximum that a single business owner or a farmer or just a couple can understand without hiring somebody Almost 60 percent of American people now need to hire an expert to understand their taxes So yes you’re going to hear a lot of talk about tax reform — QUINTANILLA: Mrs Fiorina — FIORINA: — the issue is who is going to get it done (CROSSTALK) QUINTANILLA: We’re going to — QUICK: We’re going to move on QUINTANILLA: We will come around the bend i promise This one is for Senator Rubio You’ve been a young man in a hurry ever since you won your first election in your 20s You’ve had a big accomplishment in the Senate an immigration bill providing a path to citizenship the conservatives in your party hate and even you don’t support anymore Now you’re skipping more votes than any senator to run for president Why not slow down get a few more things done first or least finish what you start RUBIO: That’s an interesting question That’s exactly what the Republican establishment says too Why don’t you wait in line Wait for what This country is running out of time We can’t afford to have another four years like the last eight years Watching this broadcast tonight are millions of people that are living paycheck to paycheck They’re working as hard as they ever have everything costs more and they haven’t had a raise in decades You have small businesses in America that are struggling For the first time in 35 years we have more businesses closing than starting We have a world that’s out of control and has grown dangerous and a president that is weakening our military and making our foreign policy unstable and unreliable in the eyes of our allies And our adversaries continue to grow stronger We have a — they say there’s no bipartisanship in Washington We have a $19 trillion bipartisan debt and it continues to grow as we borrow money from countries that do not like us to pay for government we cannot afford The time to act is now The time to turn the page is now If we — if we don’t act now we are going to be the first generation in American history that leaves our children worse off than ourselves QUINTANILLA: So when the Sun-Sentinel says Rubio should resign not rip us off when they say Floridians sent you to Washington to do a job when they say you act like you hate your job do you RUBIO: Let me say I read that editorial today with a great amusement It’s actually evidence of the bias that exists in the American media today QUINTANILLA: Well do you hate your job RUBIO: Let me — let me answer your question on the Sun-Sentinel editorial today Back in 2004 one of my predecessors to the Senate by the name of Bob Graham a Democrat ran for president missing over 30 percent of his votes I don’t recall them calling for his resignation — QUINTANILLA: Is that the standard RUBIO: Later that year in 2004 John Kerry ran for president missing close to 60 to 70 percent of his votes I don’t recall the Sun — in fact the Sun-Sentinel endorsed him In 2008 Barack Obama missed 60 or 70 percent of his votes and the same newspaper endorsed him again So this is another example of the double standard that exists in this country between the mainstream media and the conservative movement (APPLAUSE) QUINTANILLA: Senator thank you John BUSH: Could I — could I bring something up here because I’m a constituent of the senator and I helped him and I expected that he would do constituent service which means that he shows up to work He got endorsed by the Sun-Sentinel because he was the most talented guy in the field He’s a gifted politician But Marco when you signed up for this this was a six-year term and you should be showing up to work I mean literally the Senate — what is it like a French work week You get like three days where you have to show up You can campaign or just resign and let someone else take the job There are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck in Florida as well they’re looking for a senator that will fight for them each and every day RUBIO: I get to respond right QUICK: Thirty seconds RUBIO: Well it’s interesting Over the last few weeks I’ve listened to Jeb as he walked around the country and said that you’re modeling your campaign after John McCain that you’re going to launch a furious comeback the way he did by fighting hard in New Hampshire and places like that carrying your own bag at the airport You know how many votes John McCain missed when he was carrying out that furious comeback that you’re now modeling after BUSH: He wasn’t my senator RUBIO: No Jeb I don’t remember — well let me tell you I don’t remember you ever complaining about John McCain’s vote record The only reason why you’re doing it now is because we’re running for the same position and someone has convinced you that attacking me is going to help you BUSH: Well I’ve been — RUBIO: Here’s the bottom line (APPLAUSE) I’m not — my campaign is going to be about the future of America it’s not going to be about attacking anyone else on this stage I will continue to have tremendous admiration and respect for Governor Bush I’m not running against Governor Bush I’m not running against anyone on this stage I’m running for president because there is no way we can elect Hillary Clinton to continue the policies of Barack Obama QUINTANILLA: Thank you Senator TRUMP: I think you’re — (APPLAUSE) (CROSSTALK) HARWOOD: Hold on I think there’s a — I’ve got question for — (CROSSTALK) KASICH: John Harwood there’s a bigger issue here HARWOOD: Hold on Governor I’ve got a question for Governor Bush (CROSSTALK) HARWOOD: No we’re moving to Governor Bush Governor the fact that you’re at the fifth lectern tonight shows how far your stock has fallen in this race despite the big investment your donors have made HARWOOD: You noted recently after slashing your payroll that you had better things to do than sit around and be demonized by other people I wanted to ask you — BUSH: No no What I said was I don’t believe that I would be president of the United States and have the same dysfunction that exists in Washington DC now HARWOOD: OK BUSH: Don’t vote for me if you want to keep the gridlock in Washington DC HARWOOD: Got it BUSH: But if you want someone who has a proven effective leadership that was a governor of a state that transformed the culture there elect me so I can fight for the American people and change the culture in Washington DC HARWOOD: But it’s a — OK It’s a — it’s a question about why you’re having difficulty I want to ask you in this context Ben Bernanke who was appointed Fed chairman by your brother recently wrote a book in which he said he no longer considers himself a Republican because the Republican Party has given in to know- nothingism Is that why you’re having a difficult time in this race BUSH: (inaudible) the great majority of Republicans and Americans believe in a hopeful future They don’t believe in building walls and a pessimistic view of the future They’re concerned that Washington is so dysfunctional it is holding them back There are lids on people’s aspirations Think about it: six and a half million people working part-time Workforce participation rates lower than they were in 1977 Six million more people living in poverty than the day that Barack Obama got elected president and the left just wants more of the same We have to offer a compelling alternative that is based on hope and optimism and grounded in serious policy which I’ve laid out And you can go get it at jeb2016com HARWOOD: Thank you Governor (CROSSTALK) HARWOOD: We’re gonna get down the line Becky’s got a question QUICK: We’ll get to everyone Ms Fiorina I — I’d like to ask you a question You are running for president of the United States because of your record running Hewlett-Packard But the stock market is usually a fair indicator of the performance of a CEO and the market was not kind to you Someone who invested a dollar in your company the day you took office had lost half of the dollar by the day you left Obviously you’ve talked in the past about what a difficult time it was for technology companies but anybody who was following the market knows that your stock was a much worse performer if you looked at your competitors if you looked at the overall market I just wonder in terms of all of that — you know we look back your board fired you I just wondered why you think we should hire you now FIORINA: You know the NASDAQ dropped 80 percent — 80 percent — and it took 15 years for the NASDAQ to recover I was recruited to HP to save a company It was a company that had grown into a bloated inept bureaucracy that cost too much and delivered too little to customers and shareholders It had missed before I had arrived expectations for nine quarters in a row As an outsider I tackled HP’s entrenched problems head-on I cut the bureaucracy down to size re-introduced accountability focused on service on innovation on leading in every market in every product segment And yes it was a very difficult time However we saved 80000 jobs and we went on to grow to 160000 jobs and scores of technology companies literally went out of business — like Gateway — taking all their jobs with them The truth is I had to make some tough calls in some tough times I think actually people are looking for that in Washington now And yes I was fired over a disagreement in the boardroom There are politics in the boardroom as well And yet the man who led my firing Tom Perkins an icon of Silicon Valley has come out publicly and said “you know what We were wrong She was right She was a great CEO She’d be a great president of the United States because the leadership she brought to HP is exactly the leadership we need in Washington DC QUICK: Mrs Fiorina it’s interesting that you bring up Mr Perkins because… (APPLAUSE) …he said a lot of very questionable things Last year in an interview he said that he thinks wealthy people should get more votes than poor people I think his quote was that “if you pay zero dollars in taxes you should get zero votes If you pay a million dollars you should get a million votes” Is this the type of person you want defending you FIORINA: Well this is one of the reasons why Tom Perkins and I had disagreements in the boardroom Becky (LAUGHTER) Nevertheless one of the things that I think people don’t always understand is how accountable a CEO actually is So you know I had to report results every 90 days in excruciating detail I had to answer every single question about every single result and every single projection in public until there were no more questions And if I misrepresented those results or those projections in any way I was held criminally liable Imagine — imagine — if a politician were held to that standard of account I will run on my record all day long (APPLAUSE) And I believe people need a leader who is prepared to make tough calls in tough times and stand up… QUICK: Mrs Fiorina FIORINA: …and be held accountable QUICK: Thank you we’re out of time Thank you Mrs Fiorina Carl QUINTANILLA: Senator Cruz Congressional Republicans Democrats and the White House are about to strike a compromise that would raise the debt limit prevent a government shutdown and calm financial markets that fear of — another Washington-created crisis is on the way Does your opposition to it show that you’re not the kind of problem-solver American voters want CRUZ: You know let me say something at the outset The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don’t trust the media (APPLAUSE) This is not a cage match And you look at the questions — “Donald Trump are you a comic-book villain” “Ben Carson can you do math” “John Kasich will you insult two people over here” “Marco Rubio why don’t you resign” “Jeb Bush why have your numbers fallen” How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about (APPLAUSE) QUINTANILLA: (inaudible) do we get credit (inaudible) CRUZ: And Carl — Carl I’m not finished yet CRUZ: The contrast with the Democratic debate where every fawning question from the media was “Which of you is more handsome and why” (LAUGHTER) And let me be clear (CROSSTALK) QUINTANILLA: So this is a question about (inaudible) which you have 30 seconds left to answer should you choose to do so CRUZ: Let me be clear The men and women on this stage have more ideas more experience more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks (LAUGHTER) And nobody watching at home believed that any of the moderators had any intention of voting in a Republican primary The questions that are being asked shouldn’t be trying to get people to tear into each other It should be what are your substantive positions… (CROSSTALK) QUINTANILLA: OK (inaudible) I asked you about the debt limit and I got no answer (CROSSTALK) CRUZ: You want me to answer that question I’m happy to answer the question… (CROSSTALK) CRUZ: Let me tell you how that question… (CROSSTALK) CRUZ: Let me tell you how that question… (CROSSTALK) HARWOOD: Senator Paul I’ve got a question for you on the same subject CRUZ: … so you don’t actually want to hear the answer John HARWOOD: Senator Paul CRUZ: You don’t want to hear the answer You just want to… (CROSSTALK) HARWOOD: You used your time on something else Senator Paul CRUZ: You’re not interested in an answer (CROSSTALK) HARWOOD: Senator Paul the budget deal crafted by Speaker Boehner and passed by the House today makes cuts in entitlement programs Medicare and Social Security disability which are the very programs conservatives say need cutting to shrink government and solve our country’s long-term budget deficit Do you oppose that budget deal because it doesn’t cut those programs enough PAUL: No I oppose it because you’re taking money from the entitlement and then spending it immediately on other items That’s what they’re doing They’re taking money from Social Security and they’re going to spend it on the military and they’re going to spend it on domestic spending Here’s the thing When you look at raising the debt limit it should be leverage to try to reform government In 2011 the sequester was passed as a reform to slow down the rate of government Instead the Washington establishment raised both We raised the military spending took from entitlements and raised domestic spending and the deficit will explode under this This is the unholy alliance that people need to know about between right and left Right and left are spending us into oblivion We should use the debt ceiling as precisely to Don to force upon them budgetary reforms HARWOOD: Senator if what you just said is true why did Speaker Boehner craft this deal and why did Paul Ryan who has a strong reputation for fiscal discipline vote for it PAUL: Well that’s a real question Is there going to be any change in the House with new leadership I frankly don’t think there will be much change because I think what’s going to happen is you’re going to get more of the same People in Washington think they were sent there to be adults and govern and do all this Well you know what I’m worried about Not keeping the government open I’m worried about bankrupting the American people We’re borrowing a million dollars a minute That is important And that’s what we have to contrast Keeping the government open and continuing to borrow a million dollars a minute (CROSSTALK) HARWOOD: Thank you Senator (inaudible) QUICK: Governor Christie I’d like to (inaudible) a question next Actually I have a question for you (inaudible) In your tell it like it is campaign you’ve said a lot of tough things You’ve said that we need to raise the retirement age for Social Security You think that we need to cut benefits for people who make over $80000 and eliminate them entirely for seniors who are making over $200000 Governor Huckabee who is here on the stage has said that you and others who think this way are trying to rob seniors of the benefits that they’ve earned It raises the question: When it is acceptable to break a social compact RITCHIE: Well I wish you would have asked that question years ago when they broke it I mean let me be honest with the people who are watching at home The government has lied to you and they have stolen from you They told you that your Social Security money is in a trust fund All that’s in that trust fund is a pile of IOUs for money they spent on something else a long time ago And they’ve stolen from you because now they know they cannot pay these benefits and Social Security is going to be insolvent in seven to eight years We’re sitting up here talking about all these other things; 71 percent of federal spending today is on entitlements and debt service And that’s with zero percent interest rates Now I’m the only person that’s put out a detailed plan on how to deal with entitlements And we’ll save a trillion dollars over the next 10 years And here’s the difference between me and Hillary Clinton What Hillary Clinton’s going to say and has said before is she wants to raise Social Security taxes Now let me ask you a question everybody and this is for the guy you know who owns a landscaping business out there If somebody’s already stolen money from you are you going to give them more Or are you going to deal with the problem by saying I’m going to give people who’ve done well in this country less benefit on the backend We need to get realistic about this We’re not — the American people — forget about anything else they’ve already been lied to and stolen from And… QUICK: …Governor… CHRISTIE: …I’m going to go to Washington to stop it… QUICK: …Thank you QUINTANILLA: We promised we would get to everyone this block Governor Huckabee I’m going to give you 60 seconds on this HUCKABEE: Well I would really appreciate that First of all yes we’ve stolen Yes we’ve lied to the American people about Social Security and Medicare But you know what we’re not telling them It’s their money This isn’t the governments money This is not entitlement it’s not welfare This is money that people have confiscated out of their paychecks Everytime they got a paycheck the government reached in and took something out of it before they ever saw it Now we’re going to blame the people Today congress decided to take another $150 billion dollars away from Social Security so they can borrow more money That makes no sense to everybody And they’re always going to say “Well we’re going to fix this one day” No their not It’s like a 400 pound man saying “I’m going to go on a diet but I’m eating a sack of Krispy Kremes before I do” And people are sick of believing that the government is never going to really address this But let me tell you who not to blame Let’s quit blaming the people on Social Security Let’s quit making it a problem for them It’s like them getting mugged and then us saying well we’re going to mug you some more You ought to just be able to get over it get used to it… QUINTANILLA: …Governor… HUCKABEE: …No sir… QUINTANILLA: …Thank you Governor… HUCKABEE: …we need to honor our promises… (CROSSTALK) QUINTANILLA: …Senator Cruz… HUCKABEE: …before I go This is the only time I’ve had a chance let me finish QUINTANILLA: OK alright HUCKABEE: …This is a matter not of math this is a matter of morality If this country that does not keep its promise to seniors then what promise can this country hope to be trusted to keep And the fact is none of them (CROSSTALK) MALE: And by the way Carl… (APPLAUSE) HUCKABEE: And the only way — no… (CROSSTALK) CHRISTIE: …The only way we’re going to be morale the only way we’re going to keep our promise to seniors is start by following the first rule we should all follow which is to look at them treat them like adults and tell them the truth It isn’t there anymore Mike They stole it It got stolen from them It’s not theirs anymore The government stole it and spent it a long time ago… HUCKABEE: …Chris… CHRISTIE: So let’s stop fooling around about this let’s tell people the truth For once let’s do that and stop trying to give them some kind of fantasy that’s never going to come true QUINTANILLA: Senator Cruz… HUCKABEE: …Chris… QUINTANILLA: …Before we go to break we’re clearly not having that beer you mentioned but I’ll give you 30 more seconds… CRUZ: …Then I’ll buy you a tequila… QUINTANILLA: OK CRUZ: …Or even some famous Colorado brownies QUINTANILLA: I’ll give you 30 seconds to respond… (CHEERING) QUINTANILLA: (INAUDIBLE) HUCKABEE: Since he brought me up do I not get to respond QUINTANILLA: Respond on the debt limit or an answer to the governor which ever you choose CRUZ: Well sure This deal in Washington is an example of why Washington’s broken Republican leadership joined with every single Democrat add $80 trillion to our debt to do nothing to fix the problems And let me now on Social Security because we were getting into a good substantive exchange and I want to say I think both Chris and Mike are right Governor Huckabee’s exactly right we need to honor the promises made to our seniors but for younger workers — look I’m 44 years old It is hard to find someone in my generation that thinks Social Security will be there for us We can save and preserve and strengthen Social Security by making no changes for seniors but for younger workers gradually increasing the retirement age changing the rate of growth so that it matches inflation and critically allowing younger workers to keep a portion of our tax payments in a personal account that we own we control them we can pass on to our kids QUINTANILLA: 30 seconds Governor Huckabee HUCKABEE: John listen let’s keep in mind that for one-third of the 60 million Americans on Social Security it represents 90 percent of their income And when I hear people talking about means testing let’s just remember what that means If we means test Social Security it means that the government decides whether or not I deserve it If a person lives in a seven room house does the government get to say you don’t need seven rooms we’re going to take two of them away HUCKABEE: Folks the government has no business stealing even more from the people who have paid this in I just want to remind you people paid their money They expect to have it And if this government doesn’t pay it than tell me what’s different between the government and Bernie Madolf who sits in prison today for doing less than what the government has done to the people on social security and Medicare in this country (APPLAUSE) QUINTANILLA: Governor thank you We will take a break The Republican Presidential debate live from Boulder Colorado coming back after a break on CNBC (APPLAUSE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) QUICK: Welcome back to the presidential debate for the Republicans We are live in Boulder Colorado right here on CNBC Folks we’ll get right back into this Mr Trump let’s talk a little bit about bankruptcies Your Atlantic City casinos filed for bankruptcy four times In fact Fitch the ratings agency even said that they were serial filers for all of this You said that you did great with Atlantic City and you did But some of the individuals — the bondholders some of the contractors who worked for you didn’t fare so well Bankruptcy is a broken promise Why should the voters believe the promises that you’re telling them right now TRUMP: Well first of all like many other very big businessmen I could name them here but I’m not going to do that for a lot of obvious reasons but the biggest and almost all of them they’ve all used the chapter laws the bankruptcy laws to their own benefit Before this I was a very successful person as a developer and as a businessman Atlantic City has gone bad I mean Chris will know about that I’m not blaming Chris by the way but he will know about that Caesar’s — excuse me — Caesar’s the Rolls-Royce as you know is in bankruptcy Almost every hotel in Atlantic City has either been in bankruptcy or will be in bankruptcy — the biggest But also the biggest people (ph) — now I’ve used that to my advantage as a business man for my family for myself I never filed for bankruptcy But many many people did What happened with Atlantic City is very very disgraceful Now hundreds of companies I’ve opened I’ve used it three times maybe four times Came out great But I guess I’m supposed to come out great That is what I could do for the country We owe $19 trillion boy am I good at solving debt problems Nobody can solve it like me But I will tell you this Atlantic City you’re using that hundreds of companies that I have opened have thrived I built a net worth of way over $10 billion and I have done it four times out of hundreds And I’m glad I did it I used the laws of the country to my benefit I’m sorry QUICK: Mr Trump thank you TRUMP: Thank you CRAMER: Dr Carson in recent weeks a number of pharmaceutical companies has been accused of profiteering for dramatically raising the prices of life-saving drugs You have spent a lifetime in medicine Have these companies gone too far Should the government be involved in controlling some of these price increases CARSON: Well there is no question that some people go overboard when it comes to trying to make profits and they don’t take into consideration the American people What we have to start thinking about as leaders particularly in government is what can we do for the average American And you think about the reasons that we’re having such difficulty right now with our job market Well the average small manufacturer whatever they’re manufacturing drugs or anything if they have less than 50 employees the average cost in terms of regulations is $34000 per employee Makes it a whole lot easier for them to want to go somewhere else So what we’re going to have to start doing instead of you know picking on this group or this group is we’re going to have to have a major reduction in the regulatory influence that is going on The government is not supposed to be in every part of our lives and that is what is causing the problem CRAMER: Thank you Dr Carson Governor Christie there has been a lot of political rhetoric that some bank executives should have gone to jail for the 2008 financial crisis But General Motors paid more than $1 billion in fines and settlements for its ignition switch defect One hundred and twenty- four people died as a result of these faulty switches No one went to jail As a former prosecutor do you believe the people responsible for the switch and the cover-up belong behind bars CHRISTIE: You bet they do And if I were the prosecutor that is exactly where they would be The fact is that this Justice Department under this president has been a political Justice Department It has been a Justice Department that decided that they want to pick who the winners and losers are They like General Motors so they give them a pass They don’t like somebody else like David Petraeus they prosecute them and send a decorated general on to disgrace It’s a political Justice Department And Jim you know full well that in the seven years I was US attorney we went after pharmaceutical companies We went after companies that were ripping off shareholders We went after companies that were doing things that were against the law And to expand on Mr Carson’s — or Dr Carson’s question let’s face it we have laws already We don’t need newer (ph) laws We don’t need Hillary Clinton’s price controls for — again does anybody out there think that giving Washington DC, for those who that have these big high costs, He has a wonderful temperament.2 million dial-up subscribers. You have radical jihadists spreading all over the world. We’re going to start taking care of our vets, You have said the United States should start examining a strategy of regime change in North Korea. Dr.
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